Can SMOKTech offer a compelling reason to spend nearly $40 for this type of device?
About the SMOK Stick V8 Baby Starter Kit
The SMOK Stick V8 Baby Starter Kit has a 2,000 mAh internal vape pen-style battery. Battery life is about average for this type of device, but like all the newest entry-level SMOK products being introduced this month, the Coil Replacements will play a large part of the success or failure of the Stick V8 Baby.
The new M2 class coils from SMOK are designed for this type of device, and both offer great performance with less power needed. The Stick V8 Baby Starter Kit will feature two coils;
1 x V8 Baby M2 Dual-Core Atomizer Coil (0.25 Ohms)
The Stick V8 Baby is a straight up point-n-vape device. No settings to worry about, simply fill the tank and press the fire button. This Direct Voltage device is supposed to calculate the power needed to obtain the optimal vape according the Coil Head used in the included TFV8 Baby Beast Sub-Ohm Tank. And that, folks, is the big question.
The output power of the Stick V8 Baby directly relates to the amount of power left in the battery. Starting off at 4.2v and working down to 3.4v before needing a recharge, the device is supposed to make adjustments to supply the Vaper with a good vape experience. We are certainly looking forward to finding out if this is indeed the case.
The SMOK Stick V8 Baby Kit’s 2,000mAh capacity will not be sufficient to last more than two, maybe three hours before being depleted, but if you happen to be using the device while working at your computer, the Stick V8 Baby works as a pass-thru device.
If I pick one of these starter kits up I’ll make sure to have an extra-long USB cable and a car adapter to use while driving.
The Smok Stick V8 Baby Battery has multiple safety features to assure a safe and effective vape.
Features include an 8-Second Shutoff Protection, a Low-Resistance Protection, Short-Circuit Protection, and Low-Voltage Protection. Something we all expect with VW/TC mods, but it’s nice to see these features reaching down into vape pen arena as well.
The SMOK Stick V8 Baby Startet Kit comes with the famous SMOKTFV8 Baby Beast Tank. The Stick V8 battery is made with aluminum-zinc alloy, and the Baby Beast Tank is created using 304-grade stainless steel.
The TFV8 Baby Beast has a 3ml ejuice capacity, and with the new coil heads included in this Starter Kit, we can expect to see longer battery life and less eliquid consumption than the more advance VW/TC box mods.
Back when the entire staff was vaping with the Aspire CF battery and their Atlantis Sub-Ohm Tank, we enjoyed the vape experience quite a bit. In the intervening years box mods were, and are, all the rage, but should the SMOK Stick V8 Baby prove to provide a great vape, we’ll be happy to tell you so.
Our biggest concern is this Direct Voltage system. When it comes to powering sub-ohm tanks this system often under powers the coils, and thereby providing only a ‘decent’ vape experience. We expect more from SMOKTech, and we hope we get it.
You can buy the SMOK Stick V8 Baby Starter Kit from Urvapin.
The SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast Tank has improvements over the TFV4 across the board. SMOK took in a ton of feedback from actual users, and reviewers, and then went about creating the TFV8 Cloud Beastthat would reflect the best of the feedback.
The airflow slots on the TFV8 increase intake by 18% from bottom airflow slots. The airflow Tube was also increased, by a bit more than 30%, creating an unbelievable vape experience.
Improved Top Fill
Personally, I liked the Top-Fill method in the TFV4. The soft plastic protection “lid” had a small, but usable, slot for
filling, and because it was soft I was able to squeeze in the eye-dropper from the ejuice bottle easily, without muss or fuss. Still, everything can be improved, no?
The Top-Fill system for the SMOK TFV8 is much the same of the TFV4, but the e-juice hole of the top-fill section has been enlarged some, to allow the user to insert eye-droppers even better. Some people I’ve spoken with that are huge fans of the older TFV4 say the new enlarged top-fill hole is great, but the old one was never a problem for me, but I’ll admit it’s a decent improvement.
SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast Takeaway
Make no mistake, the TFV8 is a large tank. Larger than the new Joyetech Ultimo, larger than the Vaporesso ORC tank, and even larger than the Uwell Crown 2, a large tank in its own right. The coil heads are massive, and the VT-V8 is intimidating as hell, but despite the size and the massive coil heads, the Cloud Beast is manageable, and makes a fantastic All-Day-Tank.
The fact that the SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast is an all-day-tank, we need to keep in mind the power needed to drive the tank, and the huge amounts of ejuice it takes to keep a Vaper vaping.
Each of the Coil Heads available for the TFV8 is rated for wattage, and this does provide some leeway into the power/ejuice needs. I’ll discuss the individual coil heads below, and I’ll let you know what to expect as far as battery life and ejuice usage for each one.
New Coil Heads and RBA
The SMOK TFV8 launches with four coil head options, all using Kanthal A1 wire. While the RBA section includes a dual coil Clapton with Kanthal, you can use any wire with the RBA for Temperature Control vaping. But, at this time, the SMOK TFV8 is not for TC Vapers unless the RBA component is used with various TC wire (Nickel, Titanium, Stainless Steel).
The highest wattage coil that comes with the SMOK TFV8Cloud Beast package is the V8-T8, which can be vaped at up 260 watts with the right ejuice.
The SMOK TFV8Turbo EnginesReplacement Coils use powerful cores. Patented by design and high-performance capability, they offer an unmatched airflow performance and incredible vaping experience.
It should be noted that during the lifespan of the SMOK TFV4, SMOK introduced 15 different coil heads. SMOK just might do the same thing the TFV8, but I suppose that will depend on the sales numbers, initially and down the road. The most important question SMOK will have to answer is; Are Vapers using this tank long term or are Vapers picking one up for novelty or to add the most powerful Sub-Ohm tank to their arsenal? If the TFV8 is used as an all-day-tank, which it should, then coil head options are probably a sure thing.
The three standard coil heads and the one RBA are all rated in wattage of at least 50w. The top-end of the wattage scale varies as to the coils in the heads, but maxes out at 260w. To vape at that wattage, you would have to buy one of the few 300w mods, something I hope to never do.
My Vape Experiences with the Four Heads
TFV8 – V8-T6
The V8-T6 coil head is rated at 50w to 240 watts. The ohms rating is 0.2, and the coil is made up of 6 separate coils, a patented design. This Turbo coil head might become the favorite among users because it can be used to create a great vape at about 90-100w. No doubt you’ll breeze through ejuice and battery life, but the flavor from this coil head, and the vapor production, will beat any prebuilt coil head on the market, except for the T8-V8.
This coil head has a total of 6 oblong cuts into the outer casing to allow even more air to circulate directly on the quad
coils. SMOK tells us that this coil head delivers a super smooth and silky vape experience, similar to a Hookah. The last Hookah I used was the e-hookah by the new-defunct Triple 7 company. That device was, back in the day, a very decent vape, though now it would be so outdated I wouldn’t bother.
Attaching the V8-Q4 to the TFV8 and using the Fuchai 213 I discovered that 95w produced a nice lukewarm, silky vape just as SMOK claimed. The vapor was very dense, the flavor was out of this world, but in order to achieve warm vapor I had to push the wattage to 125w, so once again battery life and ejuice consumption was high.
This coil head is seriously astonishing. Even vaping at a full 100w the vapor temperature was only slightly warm. I moved it to 140w to achieve just enough warmth in the vapor and overwhelming flavor. This coil head is possessed by the Devil himself. You can expect the largest clouds you imagine, with extraordinary flavor with a MaxVG eliquid, but should you decide to vape at 140-180 watts, which is easily done, you can expect to almost watch your battery indicator slide down in real time, and that 6mL of ejuice to disappear inside of 20 minutes.
If the user decides that the V8-T8 is the coil head of choice, the user should expect to have a couple of extra “sets” of batteries in waiting, as well as an extra 30mL bottle of ejuice at the ready.
The Much Improved RBA Base
The TFV8 RBA coil is an enormous improvement over the RBA for the TFV4. The TFV8 RBA section has an 18mm build deck for making easy work with just about any wire or any build. For builders SMOK outfits the TFV8 with a strong V8 RBA Head (4.0T-X) that includes a pre-installed 0.28ohm Clapton Dual Coils. The build deck features a two-post, dual terminal design that will accommodate a wide variety of build ‘styles’ and coil structures.
While the Clapton coils are attached, the user will still have to wick it. Thankfully, SMOK includes some organic cotton to fully wick the RBA.
As far as Sub-Ohm Tank RBA components go, the TFV8 is the easiest one I’ve ever worked with. Twist off the coil wall to expose the actual coils, wick it, saturate it, and vape like hell. When it comes to wrapping your own coils there is plenty of room to work with, and as I said above, with so many options for builds, the RBA will easily become the favored component for builders that own the tank. Inside the TFV8 Tank box is everything the user needs, and everything the users get when purchasing the RBA section separately.
Bottom Line – Real World Impressions
I fully expected the SMOK TFV8 to cost $49.99. It looks like a $50 tank, and it performs like nothing I’ve used before. When SMOK went back to the lab to design the TFV8, with all the notes and feedback by users, they came out with a tank that is so vastly improved that I cannot imagine an owner of the TFV4 being happy with that tank when the TFV8 can be had for $1 more.
As I’ve said so many times before, just about every sub-ohm tank today provides a good vape, and many provide an excellent vape. So why should Vapers go out and buy the SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast?
Well, not everyone should. Despite the new shorter height, the TFV8 is still 24.5mm wide, 25.5 at the widest, and it needs plenty of power to push it. If you don’t have a mod that push past the 100w mark, you won’t get all that the TFV8 offers. In fact, if your mod maxes out at 100W, there are better tanks for your needs. The Atom Vapes Metropolis, the Joyetech Ultimo, the eleaf Lemo 3, the Protank 4 by Kanger, and others, are sub-ohm tanks for the 100w and under mods.
If a Vaper uses a high powered mod, in excess of 150w, then the TFV8 will provide a vape experience like no other. This much-improved ‘TF’ tank is more than a Cloud Beast, though it is a cloud beast, the flavor production is just as “big” as the clouds of vapor. After all, the TF in TFV8 stands for TASTE FURIOUS.
A while back we began using the terms “mainstream tanks” and “specialty tanks”, and the SMOK TFV4 was diffidently a ‘specialty tank’. Can the same thing be said about the TFV8? Yes, and No.
Certain aspects of the SMOK TFV8 are definitely “specialty”. The very high wattage, the large width, and the huge coil heads. On the other hand, with so many Vapers owning mods that exceed 100w, plenty of those mods have the space for a 24.5mm base, and the excellently balanced flavor/vapor production, I would say that even New Vaperswho opt for the high wattage mod, could handle the TFV8 without much of a problem.
Owners of the SMOK TFV8 will get less battery life and vape through more ejuice than they would with other sub-ohm tanks, But, if that isn’t a problem, the TFV8 will provide a vape experience that can’t be found in any other sub-ohm tank.
SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast Features:
6ml E-Liquid Capacity (5.5ml with TF-V8 Coil Installed)
I guess it’s a universal problem for our vaping friends to choose a proper ecig to take with when going out. The Dragon-Boat Festival of China is around the corner, and also brings this problem to me. Personally, for carrying around, portability is my first concern, but not the big functions that I may pay great attention when I am vaping in the office or at home. I have decided to take the Limitless Pulse Pod for the short-distance trip in the coming festival.
As shown in the picture, Limitless Pulse Pod System Starter Kit is a portable all-in-one device with a skinny body, totally different to those big ones. Put it in your pocket just like a pen!
Limitless Pulse Pod System Vape is small, but it’s perfectly configured. It is composed by a changeable pulse pod and a chargeable battery part (I may call it mod). The pulse pod has a juice capacity of 2ml, just like a cartridge.
The Pulse Pod is easy for refilling. You just disassemble the mouth piece, open the red plug and fill it with the juice bottle. Mind that there should be now left liquid outside of the tank. A thin needle tip bottle will be a good choice for filling the tank. As coils may be burnt too much and thus influence the flavor, the heater in the pod also needs to be changed. How often you change the pod depends on your personal vaping habit. It’s the similar question to how long does a limitless pulse pod last, thus the answer is the same.
Limitless Company is also considerate to release a separate pulse pod packexclusively for this kit. Three pieces in a pack and it’s quite easy to change the pod which you can see from the picture above.
The battery has a capacity of 380mah and it is rechargeable by a USB cable. The button on the center of the Pulse Pen allows you to change the color of the LED light system.
For the package, Limitless adopts its usual style—the hat box made of paper. On the front side of the box, there is the LOGO and the product name as well as the name of its cooperator PLY ROCK. Inside of the box, there is a Limitless Pulse Pod System Vape Pen, a Pod and a USB charger.
The SMOK TFV8 Big Baby Beast Tankis a fantastic enlarged upgrade from the TFV8 Baby Beast (a tank I use on a daily basis) and a perfect representation of a slightly smaller TFV8 Cloud Beast. Just when you think there’s no middle ground between the two, SMOK hits us with the TFV8 Big Baby Beast!
The SMOK TFV8 Big Baby Beast is a 24.5mm Sub-Ohm Tank that utilizes the wide selection of Baby Beast Turbo Engine Coil Heads which makes cross-compatibility extremely convenient. Measuring 3mm taller and a 2.5mm bigger circumference than the Baby Beast while increasing total eJuice capacity by 2ml (to 5ml total); the Taste Flavor V8 Big Baby Beast is definitely a closer rendition to the TFV8 Cloud Beast, in my honest opinion. SMOK struck the perfect balance of not too big (TFV8 Cloud Beast) and not too small (TFV8 Baby Beast) while still being easily transported. It’s definitely not a small tank and feels more in-line with other competing tanks that share the same diameter and juice capacity; there’s nothing baby about it!
SMOK released a few additional colors to the TFV8 lineup and really makes it easy to pick one to match your style. The TFV8 Big Baby is currently available in Black, Stainless Steel and Gunmetal with Gold, Blue, Red, Green and a Rainbow version called 7-Color being released soon. I’ve been using the Black version that came with the SMOK G-Priv Starter Kit and the Stainless Steel version with the RBA deck installed. The overall construction is as you’d expect; solid and the superior Stainless Steel material used is identical to most other SMOK atomizers. I’ve been using my Cloud Beast and Baby Beast several times weekly and never had something break, wear down or show any sign of failure; a testament to SMOK’s quality control and manufacturing methods.
The TFV8 Big Baby Beast shares the same hinge-lock top-fill system that SMOK has perfected over the last year and is hands down the besttop-fill in the industry! With a nice amount of tension thanks to the extremely thick fill hole silicone gasket between the tank and top cap, the swinging arm stays closed without any looseness or unhinging whatsoever. The fill hole did decrease in size just a smidge compared to the Baby Beast but I had no issues jamming a 120ml dropper in and filling the full 5ml reservoir. I’m so familiar with the swing open fill port that I wish every manufacturer implemented a similar system to get close to what SMOK has accomplished with theirs.
The dual 15mm x 2mm adjustable bottom airflow slots provide the amount of air needed to power the TFV8 Big Baby coils and RBA section. The adjustment ring is super smooth with no hesitation when making changes and stays in any position you set it too. It does stop in the opened and closed positions, which I completely prefer, unlike the Cloud Beast that spins around 360°. The enormous 16mm Delrin wide-bore drip tip (the exact same as the Cloud Beast) still gives a great amount of flavor since it tapers down and connects (by two really strong O-rings) to a 6.9mm chimney. I personally love the larger wide-bore drip tips but SMOK does include a 510 adapter if you want to use your Baby Beast or any other 510 drip tip instead. Never once did I have a heat issue even when running 100W plus.
Lying nicely under the packaging were two replacement glass tubes which I thought was unusual but awesome. Then once I went to install the RBA deck, I realized the second additional glass was slightly taller than the others to compensate for the couple millimeters taller the RBA deck stood over the coil heads. The 510 connection threads installed easily on any device I attached it to (mainly the SMOK G-Privand Lost Vape Triade DNA250 Box Mod) while the 510 center pin gave me no issues with connectivity.
With the Baby Turbo Engine Coil Heads providing the vapor and flavor, expect a solid performance from each and every option. Every SMOK coil lately (besides a select few) is unbelievably flavorful, well-built and lasts longer than other brands. The Big Baby Beast uses the same coils as the Baby Beast despite being bigger in diameter and offering almost double the eJuice capacity. I prefer having a couple tanks that use the same coil heads so I only need to stock up on one specific resistancethat I like with the ability to use a variety of tanks. As excited as I was to have the Big Baby RBA section in hand, it’s not compatible with the Baby Beast since the glass is too short for the tank to assemble properly; unfortunate but is still an awesome addition.
Of course, I started immediately with the RBA section that comes preinstalled with dual Spaced Clapton coils (5-wrap and 2.5mm ID) reading right around 0.34Ω. Remember you need to install the taller glass tube that’s included in the box or you’re left with an unfillable gap. After some minor adjustments, I wicked it up with some premium cotton (Native Wicks Platinum to be exact) and filled it with some juice that I know like the back of my hand. Once I reached about 70W, the vape was extremely smooth. A cooler vape than I normally prefer but great flavor and clouds upon clouds of vapor. I normally build contact coils (wraps that touch each other rather than spaced apart) so after a couple tanks, I decided to install my own coils.
The RBA is a two-post Velocity-style deck that measures 16mm in total diameter with two 2mm holes on each post. The side-tension screws hold your coil leads in place with no issues despite their smaller size. Wicking is similar to the Cloud Beasts included RBA where you tuck your wicks into the corner channels with four 4.3mm x 2.5mm wicking slots around the bottom feeding juice to the cotton. With either a lot of cotton or the bare minimum, I get no leaking, gurgling or spitting with the stock setup or the dual SS316L Clapton coils (7-wrap and 2.5mm ID) I installed shortly after. I was able to push my dual Clapton coils (reading at 0.21Ω) to much higher wattages and was getting a warmer denser vape right around 80-90W. Obviously, you’re going to be limited to smaller builds but the flavor and vapor is right on par with larger more power hungry RBA’s.
The preinstalled 0.15Ω V8 Baby-X4 coil head consisted of dual parallel (quadruple) coils measuring 2.8mm ID each with four 7mm x 2.5mm wicking slots. The dual coils are placed in the center of the coil giving you direct from the coil vapor production. SMOK recommends the best output around 45-60W (with a total range of 30-70W) but I found around 65W was a perfect number for me. I’ve been vaping these coil heads with the TFV8 Baby Beast for months and bought several packs since I do enjoy them a lot. The life of the coil is close to a week of severe vaping before I started getting a change in flavor but overall I enjoy the Baby-X4 coils a lot.
Also included in the box is the 0.2Ω V8 Baby-T6 Sextuple coil head, the most powerful coil head in the V8 Baby lineup. With three individual parallel coils (giving you six coils total), a 3mm ID and three 5.5mm x 2.5mm wicking slots, power is drastically increased. The wattage range of 40-130W (best between 70-90W) is a little optimistic. I cranked it gradually to 130W and I was getting a dry hit every other pull. The plumes of vapor are thick and the flavor was definitely more up my alley around 110W. I didn’t get more than a few days of good vaping until I was getting a muted almost musty taste. While I do prefer the higher wattage capability of the T6 (I’m a triple digit vaper at heart), the Baby-X4 is the clear cut winner between the two.
While there are several other coil head options that I do vape with my Baby Beast, never once do I get leaking or resistance errors. The coil life varies from person to person so my time is normally cut shorter since I’m constantly reviewing other products. But the only con I came up with on the TFV8 Big Baby is when tightening the top cap down, it loves to hold the top of the coil head. So when I try to remove the top cap, the coil unscrews from the base with it and caused a mess, especially with the RBA section (ittook pliers to unscrew the cap on the RBA more than once). It happened the few times I went to clean my tank out and when changing to a different coil (just a friendly heads up).
The OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank is constructed with 304 Stainless Steel and glass. It’s available in Black, and ‘not-Black’ (Silver or Stainless Steel, depending on the vendor’s description.) with a juice capacity of 6mL. Interestingly, some vendors are stating a 5.2mL or 5.3mL juice capacity, and the official OBS website states 6mL. The capacity depends on the Coil Head used at the time, bear that in mind.
OBS includes 3 distinct coil-heads in the OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank package, the V12, the V8, and the V4.
The heating element (wire) is Kanthal A1, and the massive wicking is Organic Cotton. Optional Coils include a V10 OCC (Kanthal) and an RBA Head with a sizeable Two-Post Build Deck.
The package contents include a V12, V8, and a V4 coil head. Each of these, and the optional V10, are rated as followed:
15ohm V12 OCC Core – rated for 60-150W, recommended 70-90W
15ohm V10 OCC Core – rated for 60-100W,recommended 70-90W
15ohm V8 OCC Core – rated for 90-180W,recommended 110-160W
15ohm V4 OCC Core – rated for 120-260W, recommended 140-230W
All 4 coils are performance-orientated toward cloud production, using the “V OCC Coils System”. That said, The V12 is considered the “best cloud producer” Coil. The V8 and V4 are geared for a fuller flavor production, while still managing superlative clouds. The optionalV10 OCC coil is said to be the best of both worlds, but if that were true, why make it optional? Why not substitute the V8 with the V10?
All four coil head options are rated 0.15Ω, and replacement coils come in 3-packs. As a huge fan of both theSMOK TFV8 and TFV12 tanks, I find it difficult to decide which of the two
The Smok TFV8 has a 6ml juice capacity like the OBS V Tank, and the Smok TFV12 has a 25mm “base” diameter as the OBS V tank. But when comparing the performance, both clouds and flavor, the OBS V Sub-Ohm comes close to the TFV12 Cloud Beast, with a few differences.
The OBS V Sub-Ohm and the SMOK TFV8/TFV12 Cloud Beasts
Filling and refiling the OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank is not obvious when it’s unboxed, but it is easy. This tank is a side-fill tank, and to reveal the side-fill slots pull up on the top cap. Filling the OBS V is easier than filling the TFV8/TFV12 Clouds Beasts.
Maximum Airflow of the OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank
The massive Airflow for the OBS V Tank is caused by a Quad-Air slots configuration at the base of the Tank. The Airflow of any tank aids in both cloud production and allowing a higher wattage setting for the mod used. If there is a single element of the OBS V that stands out immediately after the first use, it’s the enormous amount of air drawn in by a firm inhale when the airflow ring is set to wide-open. But there is a downside to this massive air flow system.
The OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank lets in more airflow than either of the SMOK TFV8 or TFV12 Cloud Beasts. The result of vaping the OBS V with maximum airflow is a thinner, or less full, cloud production than either of the Cloud Beasts set to wide open airflow.
To produce the same thickness of vapor the user must stop down the airflow some, and this can cause a range of whistling from minor to annoying. The are no ‘incremental’ stop downs in the airflow ring, but with some work you’ll find the positions that provide thick vapor with little to no whistling.
For my personal taste, in flavor and clouds, I prefer the V4 OCC Core. This V4 is rated for 120-260W, and is considered constructed for flavor production. I found my optimal vape at 145W for immense clouds and the best flavor of the 3 other coils.
That Dumb-Looking Drip Tip
Lastly, the OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank comes with two drip tips, both POM (Delrin) drip tips. Both are excellent at keeping cool no matter how much wattage is passing through the coils. The first is a normal looking wide-bore drip tip, the default drip tip when you open the box. The other drip tip is the tallest drip tip I’ve ever seen. This tall drip tip has a built-in heat sink, and the idea is that when using the V4 Core at near maximum wattage (230W) the heat doesn’t reach through that drip tip to burn the users’ lips.
While I vaped most of the time at 145W. I experienced no excessive heat from the normal wide-bore tip. Still, wanting to do a complete review, I did take the V4 Core up to the 200W level while using the ridiculously tall drip tip and it works as advertised. I just don’t think many people will feel comfortable with this drip tip, unless the user is attempting a cloud chasing competition with the OBS V.
There is one element of the OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank that is an improvement over the SMOK TFV8
and TFV12 Sub-Ohm Tanks. The side-fill method is certainly an improvement, but from spending a full 7 days with both the OBS V Sub-Ohm with the V4 Core (and the other 3 coils) and the TFV12 Cloud Beast King with the V12-X4 Coil, I would have to give the edge to the TFV12 Cloud Beast King for flavor and cloud production. The competition was close, very close, so what it comes down to is the aesthetics of the two tanks.
More than a few people I know believe the TFV12 Cloud Beast King to be too big. For that reason alone, they won’t buy one or use one. This tank has a base size of 25mm, but the middle ‘glass’ size widens to 27mm, and the widest part of the tank is 28mm. The height of the Cloud Beast King is 70mm, making it a large Sub-Ohm tank.
The OBS V Sub-Ohm Tank is 26mm in diameter from top to bottom, with a height of 64mm. While the OBS Vis nowhere near a small tank, it is noticeably smaller in stature than the TFV12 Cloud Beast King.
For Sub-Ohm Vapers looking for something on par with the SMOK TFV8 and TFV12 models, the OBS V Sub-Ohm comes closest, at this point in time.
SMOK QBOX TC Kit is small, but one thing for sure is that its functionality is undoubted. The device fits perfectly in the palm of your hand and features all the technological and stylish aspects you would expect a SMOK product to have. The small size doesn’t hinder it from emanating big vapor clouds and has a large LED screen to provide at a glance all the information on your device’s performance.
If you are a beginner in the mod vaping world, then this is a great way to begin your journey. It beautifully bridges the jump from e-cigarettes to box mods. Everything that you need is contained within this kit, including charger cable, spare coils, user manual to guide you and a TFV8 Baby Tank, in fact all you need is e-liquid and your good to go!
Whether your focus is on style or performance or want to combine the two, the SMOK Q-Box will give each vaper everything they need and more. Making it one of the best box mods on the market for it’s size.
Fast Charging Capability, Huge Clouds
The QBOX TC features a 1600 mAh rechargeable battery, which can be fully charged just within 2 hours courtesy of its quick charge function. The battery size has just what it takes to carry you throughout the day and when out of power, all you need is a micro USB connection to get back your charge.
The TFV8 tank includes 2-3ml e-juice capacity (depending on the model you choose) that can be refilled from the top while the air-flow control puts you in charge of the vapor production.
We can undoubtedly confirm that SMOK’s new and small mod is a great one, considering its portability without scarifying any of the device’s power. You get to enjoy an output of up to 50W due to the Q-Box mod being correctly paired with the TFV8 Baby Tank. This power is high enough to create huge vapor clouds and as many suggest, the best flavor clouds too. You are not limited by the Q-Box as it is compatible with most tanks on the market so if you prefer your own tank over the TFV8 Baby tank, no problem, just switch them out!
The mod supports a resistance of as low as 0.06 ohm, temperature control and includes switchable volts and wattage modes. The 0.96 inch LED screen is clear and bright enough for you to get all the information concerning your vaping activity and has a number of functions for the purpose of protecting you and your mod.
Get it first, Order The Complete Kit
Apart from quality, SMOK is also known for the creativity they cast behind their products. In fact, SMOK mods vividly support this claim, as their design is the epicenter of attraction. That seems untrue when it comes to the Q-Box as innovation appears not to have been taken as a serious matter. But we can give it a plus as its design beats most other devices found in this category of small vapes.
You may worry about the output of just 50W, but let’s be realistic for a second. The vast majority of vapers who use the pre-installed coils will only vape at a range of between 20-40W, mostly in the 20W range, so the 50W output is more than enough and the 1600mAh battery will last longer the lower the output power is. The thought pattern with this design is to produce a mod that will fit with the majority of vapers needs, especially those who want a mod to stick in their pocket while out and about.
The impressive 1-inch screen fits perfectly with the small size and provides just at a glance data on battery life, temperature, wattage, resistance as well as the remaining puffs – calculated on your average user behavior.
It comes in a variety of colors including purple, silver, gold, black and the multi-color option which has come accustomed to as a norm by SMOK. Then there is the steel tank that beautifully fits in with the Q-Box design and colors, resulting in a device that is not only good-looking but also one whose functionality and efficiency is unquestionable.
Do you ever worry that you may be harmed in the process of vaping? Well, worry no more with the QBOX TC because it has safety features for your benefit. The kit makes no exception when it comes to reliability and safety, and protects you from short circuiting, overheating. If you are abruptly held up and forget to turn off the device, everything will be done for you since it has a 12 second cut off time.
Gone are the days when you unexpectedly run out of power because there is a low battery warning light to act as a reminder. There is the puff monitoring system that keeps track of average usage and advises you when it’s time to do an e-liquid refill. Overall this mod is competing well for the title of best e cig, but many experienced vapers just cannot look past the small battery capacity, but this is the sacrifice you have to make if size is the most important factor.
Specs in brief:
The following are the SMOK QBOX TC Kit specifications:
1-50 watts output range
Less than 500uA standby current
1-9.0 volts working voltage
200-600F/100-315 C temperature control
1600mAh battery size
96 inch OLED screen
Zinc alloy building materials
There are good things and bad things to say about the QBox, the major ones include the small 1600mAh battery, if your vaping at 50W and vape a lot, this isn’t going to be for you as it will struggle to see out the day! Granted, it’s not the perfect device, especially if your looking for an electronic cigarette to quit smoking with. If however, you are like the majority of vapers vaping at around 25-30W then this box mod is perfect as a device to carry around with you and this is exactly the intention of SMOK’s design. Utilizing the successful TFV8 Baby Tank, this kit is hard not to like!
If you are vapers vaping at around 25-30w, Smok Q box mod is the perfect device to carry around!
The Limitless Pulse Pod System, by Limitless Mod Co and Ply Rock, is a new, draw-activated, closed system pod mod with a difference – its pods are refillable.This is a pod-based system which offers the user total control in what e-liquid they vape. The Pulse starter kit ships with the mod itself and two unfilled pods, retailing for $29.95, and a pack of three refillable pods sells for $11.49. The Pulse’s battery comes out at roughly 380 mAh, with a fixed 8 W output. The pods are 1 mL in capacity (although specs elsewhere state 1.5 – 2 mL). The inbuilt coils put out between 1.7 – 1.8 ohms and use silica as wicking material. The Pulse has a striking, futuristic look – LED accents running along the device light up on inhalation. The triangular button up front turns the device on and off, and toggles between the 7 color choices (and stealth mode). Don’t judge a book only by its cover, however. Let’s take a closer look and vape on the Pulse and find out how it performs.
For a pod mod, the Pulse comes in lavish packaging. First impressions are great and the device looks futuristic with its dynamic accenting. The pods seem robust and the plastic mouthpiece pops off easily with a bit of prying. The Pulse is draw-activated, but can be turned on and off with five clicks of the button that also controls the LED accents.
One of the first things I notice is the beveled edge of the base of the device. This is one pod mod that is not intended to stand upright, and the sharp angle of this edge serves no purpose except to light up and look cool.
The pods click into the Pulse device easily enough, although the angular profile of the top of the Pulse makes it less plug-and-play and more push-and-jiggle than I’d like. I’ve seen conflicting specs for the Pulse from different sources so filled up one pod with a syringe of e-liquid. To my surprise, the pod only has a capacity of 1 mL. This is the smallest capacity of any pod mod system I’ve seen.
The coil and wick are located at the base of the pod. The coils use silica as the wicking material. By prying the positive and negative pins (still attached to the coil) out of the pod housing, I was able to get an ohm reading on a metering tab. It came out around 1.7 – 1.8 ohm. According to Limitless Mod Co’s blog, the pods can be refilled 8 to 12 times before they need to be replaced.
Refilling and hacking
Refilling the pods is simple. Remove the black mouthpiece with a little pressure and you will see a red rubber plug. This covers two holes on either side of the airflow chimney. A red arrow on the pod body indicates that only one hole should be used for refilling (to allow air to escape out of the other).
You will need a unicorn bottle or syringe to refill. I measured a capacity of 1 mL based on the syringe I used. Even for a pod mod, that’s small. But with an output of 8 W, you aren’t going to be burning through the e-liquid anyway.
The base containing the coil and wick can be easily pried away from the pod housing using a pair of elbow tweezers. I counted 9 wraps on the coil with an inner diameter of 1.5 mm. If you need to dry burn the coil, one option is to unfold and remove the gold connection pins (with the coil still attached) from the pod housing. Connect the pins to the positive and negative posts of an RDA and screw this onto a metering tab.
How it performs
The LED accents will certainly turn heads. You can also turn them off by clicking the triangular button 3 times to go into stealth mode. One issue I have is that they don’t indicate battery life. When your battery’s done, there’s no warning – the device simply blinks three times, and then it’s out. However, the device went from empty to fully charged in about 40 minutes.
The draw on the Pulse is restrictive, similar to a Nautilus or Nautilus X tank at their most closed-off. Among pod mods, I would compare the draw to the Juul or Juno, but more closed.
How is flavor on the Pulse? When the battery is fully charged it’s OK , but it deteriorates as the charge decreases.
The biggest change is with vapor production. On a full charge the Pulse produces a decent amount of vapor, for a pod mod. With a decreasing charge vapor also decreases. This feels strange, considering how hard you have to inhale on it.
I love the idea of a refillable pod mod system. For that to work, the components have to be built for multiple re-use. On one pod, the mouthpiece cracked after being removed a couple of times. The pods themselves are somewhat leaky. I have had issues with spitback, and getting e-liquid flooding through the mouthpiece.
The Pulse Pod System is a step in the right direction but needs more work to make a decent refillable closed system. Personally, I find the draw too restrictive. The flavor produced isn’t anything to write home about. Pod capacity is somewhat on the small side. Perhaps it’s the combination of silica wicking, low output wattage, and an overly restrictive draw that make for an unsatisfactory vape on the Pulse, for me at least.
On the plus side, the pods are hackable, and can be dry burnt. The price seems fair for a pod mod with two refillables included.
All in all, I really love the concept of Limitless Pulse Pod– a refillable pod mod system and the price is also affordable.
I’ve once analyzed that due to the lack of new technology support, 2016 will witness the race of appearance and function in the e-cig market, on which condition multi-function, easy operation and beautiful appearance will become the new standard for the consumers to select devices. In the aspect of appearance, there are mainly two developing directions: one is the feeling of science and technology, another is Retro Style.
Smoant, the sub-brand of Cloupor, has launched a new e-cig product called Battlestar previously, which has strong sci-fi color about it from the appearance to the name.
This dual-18640 200W box has become a focus of attention because of not only its eye-catching appearance, but also its 200W maximum power—could a dual-18650 device really produce the power as high as 200W? What is the output effect of Battlestar? What about its craftsmanship? As I recently has received its sample for test, here I would like to reveal the answers to the above questions for you.
Battlestar 200W adopts paper packaging, whose color scheme is good. The main features of Battlestar is explicitly marked on the paper box: small, compact and ergonomic.
On the yellow back face there are more detailed information about the mod.
Inside the box there is a Battlestar 200W mod, a bilingual card, a handbook and an accessory box that contains a USB cable and a box of standby magnets.
There are totally eight alternative colors, and the sample I received is in yellow and black
Battlestar, similar to WISMEC RX200, adopts the triangle design that could make the best use of space to reduce the size of the mod. Its appearance is very consistent with its name Battlestar, of which the yellow body and black buttons look conspicuous.
The surface of the mod uses anti-proof and wear-resistant rubber paint, ensuring good grip feeling. But some corners’ painting face remains to improve. Nevertheless, the overall stability of the mod is good.
Battlestar 200W adopts the spring 510 connector, which takes up more than half area of the mod’s top. The three grooves around the 510 connector are not appropriate, because they may lead the e-juice leaked from the atomizer into the connector.
The operation area of the mod is regular, where the fire button is above the screen and the adjusting buttons are integrated into one single button.
The sides of the body have some simple ornamental moldings, and the black battery jar cover also makes the mod less monotonous. To facilitate the heat dissipation of the chip and batteries, there are several venting holes for them.
On the bottom of the mod there are also four venting holes for the chip.
The protective pasting on the screen could effectively protect it from scraping.
The battery jar is fixed to the body through eight magnets. It adopts the snap joint design, thus the connection is compact and firm. The craftsmanship and material of the battery jar are also quality. The two batteries are in series, and the positive poles use spring contact.
Maybe it was for the overall effect of the mod, there is no gaps around the battery jar cover for the convenience of opening. For that reason, it may be a little bit difficult to open the cover using our finger nails like usual.
The right approach is to hold the mod using one hand, and put another hand’s thumb, index finger and middle finger on the venting holes of the cover, then pull outward hard to open the cover. It really need great strength.
Battlestar 200’s screen display is comprehensive, which consists of the electric quantity, the modes, the power, the resistance, the real-time output voltage and the temperature if under the TC mode.
Battlestar 200’s operation is very easy. Just press the power button three times in succession to call up the function menu, and press the adjusting button to shift and press the power button to confirm.
Besides the normal VW output, Battlestar also supports the TC modes for Ni200, Ti, SS and NiCr and provides three TCR presets for the users to self-define the TC material.
Many vapers doubt that whether two 18650 batteries could really produce the power as high as 200W, though SMOK’s dual-battery H-PRIV 220W has previously been proved to have the same performance as DNA200 under the power of 200W.
To address this issue, I’ve made a professional comparison test. I compared the vapor effect of Battlestar 200W and DR200 by using the same atomizer and batteries and ensuring the 100% charge status during the test.
Through the picture we could see that Battlestar is inferior to DR200 in vapor volume. Moreover, under 200W, Battlestar has nearly 0.5 second’s latency after firing.
In fact, many VW mods have this kind of latency. I think that it’s because most VM mods’ menu and settings are also called up by the power button, therefore it has to leave some time for the chip to react accurately to your command.
Since the invention of e-cig, the functions and performances of the devices have all changed a lot, but the operation of most devices still continues the initial method—press the power button five times in succession to power on or lock the device, and press three times in succession to enter into the setting menu.
Though some mods specially added the function button to simplify the operation, they have not forms the mainstream.
In fact the increasing of a function button is much humanized. It could reduce many tedious steps, save the latency time of the chip and accelerate the device’s reaction time. Though there is possibility of mistakenly touch, but it do more good than harm.
Battlestar 200W’s triangle structure reduces the mod’s size. Its dimension of 8.4cm*3cm*4cm is competitive even among single-battery mods. The mod grips comfortable no matter in what way.
After being installed with two batteries and an atomizer, Battlestar 200W’s weight is still moderate, and it is small and convenient to carry.
As for the output, each person has his own requirements and judgment standard. I don’t have professional test instruments to test the authenticity of its claimed 200W output, but you guys could refer to vapor comparison between it and DNA200 above.
In the aspect of temp control, I’ve used several sub ohm atomizers to experience the NI, TI and SS modes, and I found that the coils’ heat-up speed is fast, the output is continuous and there is no apparent impulse. The effect is similar to dual-battery mods.
Battlestar’s resistance detecting is accurate, and the data is very close to that of the detecting software.
Ease of Use
Battlestar 200W operation is easy:
Press the power button five times in succession to power on/off; press the power button three times to enter the setting menu; press the adjusting button to shift; and press the fire button to confirm. After the atomizer is installed, the confirm menu will pop up automatically—press “+” to set new resistance and press “-” to set the original resistance.
Long press the two sides of the adjusting button simultaneously to change the screen orientation; long press the fire button and “+” to change into the “black character and black background” mode for the purpose of looking clearly the screen under hard light.
Long press all the buttons to lock the power and temperature setting to avoid mistakenly pressing that may change the parameters.
Under the TC mode, long press the power mode and “+” to set the maximum output power.
But the mod don’t have the function of locking the device, therefore we have to power off to avoid the mistakenly touching while putting it into the bag.
Generally speaking, Battlestar’s operation is simple enough even for newbies.
As a small size dual-18650 200W mod that has special appearance and good color scheme, Battlestar 200W is a cost-effective product among like mods.
The corners’ painting face may easily peel off if scraped with hard matter, therefore try not to place the mod with hard things like keys, mobile phones and coins. But the overall painting of the mod is firm.
The grooves around the 510 connector may lead the leaking e-juice inward, thus frequent cleaning is needed. The 510 positive pole is a little too high, thus it may produce gaps between the mod and the atomizers whose bottom electrodes is projecting.
The battery jar cover is difficult to open due to the lack of slot design.
In Summary, Smoant Battlestar 200w box mod is especially unique in appearance and the performance is also satisfying！Worth trying!
In this review we will take a look at the Coil Master V3 Kit, a tool kit with everything you need for building your own coils. Coil Master focuses on vaping accessories that make your coil building a lot easier.
When making new coils you will need a large range of tools to completely master the perfect builds. Finding tools and buying them, can be time consuming and expensive. Coilmaster has come up with the perfect solution and they offer a DIY kit with everything you would need to make your own coils.
What comes in the Coil Master DIY Kit V3
1 x Diagonal pliers
1 x Needle-nose pliers
1 x Stainless steel folding scissors
1 x Pen styled Phillips screwdriver
1 x Pen styled Flathead screwdriver
1 x Ceramic Tweezer (T1)
1 x Elbow Tweezer (T3)
1 x 10 ft 24 GA Kanthal A1 Wire
1 x 521 Mini Tab
1 x Coiling Kit V4
1 x Silicon rubber case for jigs
1 x T styled HEX screwdriver (◇25mm, ◇1.5mm, ◇2.0mm）
3 x Japanese Organic Cotton
That’s pretty much everything you’ll need to build your first coils.
However you will need an 18650 battery for the 521 Mini Tab – this is the ohm reader.
Coil Master DIY Kit V3 Features
They call them diagonal pliers however I call them ‘wire snips’.
After using a pair of old toe-nail clippers these are fantastic for snipping off the ‘legs’ of your coils.
They’re spring loaded with a rubberized handle and are sharp and simple to use – snip! Snip!
Needle Nose Pliers
Again spring loaded with that rubberized handle and these little beauties are perfect for pulling your coils tight from the legs.
Stainless Steel Folding Scissors
At first you’ll think they’ve popped in a pair of John Lennon specs – but pull these apart and you get a super sharp pair of scissors perfect for trimming cotton wool for your wicks.
Pen Styled Phillips Screwdriver
Pretty self-explanatory really – the swivel top makes things a whole lot easier when screwing in your grub screws.
Pen Styled Flathead Screwdriver
Again self-explanatory and again with the nifty swivel top.
Used for pinching and scratching your coils whilst firing enabling you to get rid of hot-spots and tidying your coils.
A variety of uses but predominantly for working with your wicks – ideal for fluffing the cotton wool and pinching and moving your wick around.
10 ft 24 GA Kanthal A1 Wire
This is a great wire for the coil making beginner and I found it coiled beautifully with builds coming in sub 0.5ohm.
However be careful when opening it as it’s tightly spooled and will escape like a Jack-in-the-Box if you ain’t careful Yeah I was that guy lol.
521 Mini Tab
This is one of the most important items in the kit.
Not only does it make a great stand for building – more importantly you can check the resistance of your coil – dry fire it – and fine tune it until you’re happy.
It has a resistance range of 0.1 to 9.9ohm and spring loaded 510 threaded pin – I had no issues using a variety of RDAs and RTAs.
Coiling Kit V4
Forget wrapping your wires around a screwdriver – the V4 coiling kit makes the whole thing a pleasure.
You get the coiling tool and a collection of coil posts and jigs ranging from 1.5mm to 4.0mm – pretty much all you’ll need to make any sized coil.
Silicon Rubber Case with Jigs
Another set of jigs containing x6 pieces ranging between 1.5mm and 4.0mm – there’s also a little blue hex key slotted down the side.
T styled HEX screwdriver
Self-explanatory really – but I found this a nice little tool to use.
Japanese Organic Cotton
Very nice 100% organic Muji Japanese cotton that makes wicking a cinch.
Value for money
Six jig diameters
Well thought out
Easy to use
Scratch code on box to win a build mat
No user manual – not too much of an issue to be honest!
Maybe the elastic tool holdings could be swapped to Velcro maybe?
In summary, I can honestly say even as a stone cold newbie to coil making – this coil master diy kitis amazing. There really is absolutely everything you’ll need to build your first coil for your RDA or RTA which is not only fun to do – it will save you money in the long run –only $49.99 for a set of stock coils.
Recently, Coil Art has launched a mini RTA—Mage RTA, which goes the route of small size RTAs. I’m here to share my use experience with you guys.
Mage adopts paper box packaging, of which the top is transparent and imprinted with the logo of Coil Art. Through the transparent part we could see the atomizer inside. The two sides of the box are imprinted with the pattern of wand and the product name respectively. The front side is marked with the diameter and tank capacity.
Inside the pack there is also a standby glass tank, a hexagon wrench, several colorful sealing rings, a pack of standby screws, a card and a Coil Art silica ring.
Mage’s structure is the same as the typical bottom airflow liquid storage atomizers. It has three bar shape adjustable airflow ports. The material and diameter of the drip tip indicate that Mage is a big vapor atomizer. The large diameter is beneficial to discharge vapor, and the nonmetal material could prevent from conducting heat to the drip tip and burning the mouth. On the bottom of the evaporating tank there are four liquid flow holes. The logo of Coil Art is engraved on the center of the inner tank.
After completely dissembling the atomizer, we can see that the quantity of hardware is relatively small. The only five parts are: an integrated drip top, a tank cover, a glass tank, an evaporating inner tank and a base.
Judging from the hardware, Mage is a highly integrated atomizer. Each of the hardware has dual functions. For example, the drip tip has the function of sealing the liquid tank at the same time and could be connected to the 510 tip. The tank cover is integrated with the vapor tube and the cover of the inner tank, which has reduced the amount of hardware and is convenient for operating and maintaining. The design of the tank’s top cover indicates that Mage is a top filling RTA. The drip tip is connected to the top of the vapor tube through the thread, and it could seal the liquid tank via the sealing ring.
The base of the RTA also adopts the common structure of U shape four-hole electrode, being convenient for installing coils. The size of the holes is suitable for passing trick coils. The large size airflow ports are on the bottom—below the coils—and the position is higher than the bottom line, for the purpose of preventing liquid infiltration.
The positive power supply electrode is relatively thin, thus could be compatible with some special devices, for example, the boxes and mods whose 510 positive electrodes are excessively thick or thin, preventing from short circuit caused by the close distance of the positive and negative electrodes. Besides that, the atomizer should be installed by rotating the electrode deck (the 510 negative electrode in the picture was carelessly broken by me), thus regular thread and pin-lift structure can hardly realize and the stability could not be ensured.
Seen from the side, the center of the lower two coil holes are paralleled with the airflow ports. The excessively close distance of the coil and the port makes the two could easily touch each other and thus results in short circuit. Therefore, when installing the coils, try to raise the height of the coils to avoid touching with the ports, and ensure that the length of the coils is longer than the diameter of the ports.
As officially recommended, I’ve made the 2.5mm loose coils and raised them as high as possible, and the actual effect is not bad. Although the tails of the coils are close to the ports, they are not connected.
Mage could have raised the height of the ports by several millimeters to avoid this trouble, after all safety and practicability are more important than appearance and size.
The relatively large diameter of the coil holes is prepared to be matched with trick coils. I’ve tried to wind the 24Awg 2.5 coil for seven circles, however, because the length of the coil is shorter than that of the ports, their distance is too close. And if the fixing screw is too tight, the coil will be pinched off. So I will advise you guys to use trick coils or thicker ones like 22Awg coils to match with Mage.
The installment of Mage’s inner tank and the process mode of the cottons are similar to those of Five Pawns and KF4. Pass the cotton through the coils and leave moderate length, then put in the two sides in succession and screw the inner tank, after that press the cotton inside the bottom, being close to two sides of the ports and corresponding to the position of the liquid flow holes. The tails of the cotton shouldn’t be left too long, otherwise it will obstruct the process of liquid flow.
Mage’s inner tank is connected to the base through the outside thread. Pay attention that there are snap joints in the bottom, we should aim at the right position while installing, and then screw the inner tank to fix it on the deck.
The cover of the oil tank is integrated with the vapor tube and the inner tank’s cover. After the coil head is finished, put the glass tank on and point the inner tank’s cover toward the tread, press it down and screw to finish installment.
The overall size of the tanks’ covers have been reduced to the smallest level, so much so that after the sealing ring is installed, users should push down the cover heavily to put it into the tank.
Upon finishing the installment of the tanks and checking the position of the sealing ring, you could begin filling the liquid through the port on the top after closing the airflow ports on the bottom. The tank capacity of Mage is around 3.5ml, equaling to four droppers of 30ml liquid. Its cruise ability is well enough considering its small size. The liquid consumption is equivalent with RDAs with the same parameters.
Mage has the same base structure as RDAs, thus its vapor volume is also relatively large, being almost as well as RDAs under the same data. However, RTAs are equipped with liquid tank, thus the adding of evaporation tank and vapor tube has affected the vapor volume to a certain degree and make it a little bit smaller than RDAs under the same data.
Mage’s evaporation tank endows it with excellent flavor performance, making the flavor richer than regular RDAs.
Ease of use
The biggest advantage of the four-hole dual electrodes structure is its convenience for use. But the excessively close distance between the bottom airflow ports and the coil holes could easily lead to short circuit, therefore it brings trouble in building and installing coils. That’s the reason why I don’t recommend it to beginners.
The craftsmanship of the atomizer in my hand is relatively exquisite. But some details need to be improved, for example, the uneven surface of the electrodes, the position of the coil holes and some rags in the corners.